Capcom vs SNK 2/Sagat

Introduction

In a Nutshell:

Sagat is the king of CvS2. If you like a play style of dominating pokes/neutral that can convert into big damage, but also have up close pressure options, Sagat is the character for you. He has nearly everything you'd want in a character.

Pros:

- Some of the best normals in the game

- Excellent array of supers for all needs.

- Great damage output and health.

Cons:

-Slow move speed

-Big hurtboxes make him vulnerable to normals and instant overheads that much of the cast can duck

- Weakness maintaining pressure against short characters that can duck close standing jab.

- Sub par roll cancels (and specials, generally)

Preferred Grooves

Footsie Sagat generally prefers having stored supers to unleash big damage, so C or P are viable. Rushdown Sagat just needs low jump to be scary, so N and K are viable.

A groove isn't ideal, as Sagat's customs aren't really super damaging and are fairly difficult, but its still Sagat, so it's not a *bad* character. But we won't be focusing much on A-Sagat.

S Sagat is less than ideal because S-Groove isn't good period, but Sagat is definitely on the top 3 S-Groove team. Infinite level 1 Tiger Cannons is no joke.

C Groove-

Advantages-

• Level 2 cancelling- Cancelling Tiger Raid into Fierce Tiger Uppercut is one of the best meter savers. You only lose 100 damage and gain a Tiger Uppercut worth of meter on top of the meter you save compared to the level 3.

• Cheap meters- on top of the level 2 canceling, C-Groove has the fastest building gauge.

• Delayed Get-up- Unpunishable method to mess with setup/safejumps.

• Air Block-

Disadvantages-

• Rush down- You need to earn your way in through footsies and pressure.

K Groove-

Advantages-

• RAGE- When you're red, opponents are terrified. Make sure to throw them a few times and laugh that that's basically a super's worth of damage.

• Low Jump- Sagat's low jump RH is very very good. It also opens up the low jump RH/ empty jump Tiger Raid Mixup

• Safe Supers- Obviously Sagat gets this in all grooves, but K allows for "random" use it or lose it supers. Having 1 safe and 1 mostly safe supers is amazing for this.

• Safe Fall- Quickly get back in the fight, but watch for punishment!

• Just Defense- Get life back AND 1/12 meter for holding back? Great! The goal is to get around 12 JD's a round, so you end up getting 2 or 3 rage opportunities instead of 1 or 2.

Disadvantages-

• No Alpha Counter- This is brutal against A Groove

• Less control over meter usage- An opponent can wait you out, or taunt you before a match to cost your rage.

N Groove-

Advantages-

• Low Jump

• More control over Supers

• Counter Attack/Roll

Disadvantages-

• Need to "pop" for level 3's

• Slower overall functional meter than K or C.

Terms:

Forward = F/f, Backward = B/b, Up = U/u, Down = D/d

Light punch = LP (Jab Punch), Medium Punch = MP (Strong Punch), Hard punch = HP (Fierce Punch), Light kick = LK (Short Kick), Medium Kick = MK (Forward Kick), Hard kick = HK (Roundhouse Kick)

Any Punch = AP, Any Kick = AK

QCF - d,df,f (Hadoken/Tiger shot movement), QCB - d,db,b (Hurricane Kick movement), DP - f,df,f (Dragon punch/Tiger Uppercut movement)

Normal Moves

5LP

Stand Jab

5LP

Light Punch

Damage	Stun	Cancel	Guard	Parry	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Adv Hit	Adv Block	Invul
500	4	SP/SU	H/L	H/L	2	3	6	11	+6	+6	-
Solid jab. While it may have fairly short range, it can be used in guard crush strings and jail the opponent in the corner with repeated use of it. It can link into cr.MK and st.MP for some good block strings and set ups, and is a usable anti air as well, however note it's a pretty slow jab at that and it can't be rapid fired.

5MP

Stand Strong

5MP

Medium Punch

Damage	Stun	Cancel	Guard	Parry	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Adv Hit	Adv Block	Invul
1100	10	SP/SU	H/L	H/L	4	3	24	31	-7	-7	-
Fairly quick startup with a lot of recovery. Unfortunately you can't kara cancel this move so don't use it in neutral too much, or at all really. He has way better buttons out there. Outside of being used as block string filler from st.LP this normal is just outclassed by other better buttons.

5MP

Stand Fierce

5HP

Heavy Punch

Damage	Stun	Cancel	Guard	Parry	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Adv Hit	Adv Block	Invul
1600	14	SU	H/L	H/L	6	8	20	34	-4	-4	-
Amazing button. It has insane priority, making it able to beat out almost every poke in the game. It's also a really good anti air, as it has a lot of active frames and it can beat a fair amount of jump-in attacks, especially short hop jump-ins, making dealing with N and K groove characters far easier for Sagat. Mainly use this button as a whiff punish, button stuff and anti air. The only problem with this move is that it can easily get crouched under, however there's another poke Sagat has that fixes this issue.

5MP

Close Stand Fierce
Close
cl5HP

Close Heavy Punch 1st Hitbox

Close Heavy Punch 2nd Hitbox

Damage	Stun	Cancel	Guard	Parry	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Adv Hit	Adv Block	Invul
1300 / 1100	13/14	SP/SU (1st Hit Only)	H/L	H	3	8	27	38	-13	-13	-
You might misinput this button while going for tick throws, but it has a practical use. It's good for shutting down any cross-ups, as the second hitbox has a high vertical range. If you hit the first part of this normal cancel into a safe special since on it's own it's a fairly unsafe button up close.

5LP

Stand Short

5LK

Light Kick 1st Hitbox

Light Kick 2nd Hitbox

Damage	Stun	Cancel	Guard	Parry	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Adv Hit	Adv Block	Invul
200/400	2/3	SP/SU (1st Hit Only)	H/L	H/L	5	8	10	23	-1	-1	-
Two hit short kick. Unfortunately doesn't have the same practicality as the jab but if hit at close to max range it's a fairly safe frame trap tool.

5LP

Stand Forward

5MK

Medium Kick 1st Hitbox

Medium Kick 2nd Hitbox

Damage	Stun	Cancel	Guard	Parry	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Adv Hit	Adv Block	Invul
400/900	9/10	SP/SU (1st Hit Only)	H/L	H/L	5	11	24	40	-12	-12	-
Decent long ranged kick. It's only effective if used at it's max range, since it's fairly unsafe. It can also be used as a late anti-air if you don't want to use st.HP.

5LP

Stand Roundhouse

5HK

Heavy Kick 1st Hitbox

Heavy Kick 2nd Hitbox

Damage	Stun	Cancel	Guard	Parry	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Adv Hit	Adv Block	Invul
500/1300	13/14	SP/SU (1st Hit Only)	H/L	H/L	6	10	24	40	-7	-7	-
Very high kick. By design this button is your go-to anti air, however st.HP is more practical for short hops. When it comes to basic anti airs outside of short hop rushdown, use this button instead, since it also has high priority and even higher vertical range to boot.

5LP

Crouch Jab

2LP

Crouch Light Punch

Damage	Stun	Cancel	Guard	Parry	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Adv Hit	Adv Block	Invul
400	4	SP/SU	H/L	H/L	5	4	8	17	+3	+3	-
Just a far more gimped version of st.LP. There's very little situations where this move warrants any use over st.LP, so just ignore it in favor of st.LP.

5LP

Crouch Strong

2MP

Crouch Medium Punch

Damage	Stun	Cancel	Guard	Parry	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Adv Hit	Adv Block	Invul
1000	9	SP/SU	H/L	H/L	6	4	12	22	+4	+4	-
Another overlooked button. It can work as a good melee poke but nothing more. It's actually pretty safe on block, however it's just overshadowed by other better buttons.

5LP

Crouch Fierce

2HP

Crouch Heavy Punch

Damage	Stun	Cancel	Guard	Parry	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Adv Hit	Adv Block	Invul
1500	14	SU	H/L	H/L	7	8	14	17	+2	+2	-
By far Sagat's best button. It's literally st.HP but he is lower to the ground. It still retains the same functionality, and it will be your go-to confirm into super (mainly Low Tiger Cannon) and it bags massive damage. While it may be harder to anti air with cr.HP as opposed to st.HP, it can still do so much. Just don't get too trigger happy with this button as it is weak to short hops if it whiffs.

Normal Moves Data Table

Button	Position	Buffers:	Itself	Specials	Supers	Hit	Block	Startup	Active	Recovery	Damage
Jab	Standing		n	y	y	+6	+6	2	3	6	500
	Crouching		n	y	y	+3	+3	5	4	8	400
	Jumping		-	-	-	-	-	4	22	-	600
Strong	Standing		n	y	y	-7	-7	4	3	24	1100
	Crouching		n	y	y	+4	+4	6	4	12	1000
	Jumping		-	-	-	-	-	4	10	-	1100
Fierce	Close		n/n	y/n	y/y	-13	-13	3	8	27	1300,1100
	Far		n	n	y	-4	-4	6	8	20	1600
	Crouching		n	n	y	+2	+2	7	8	14	1500
	Jumping		-	-	-	-	-	6	8	-	1600
Short	Standing		n,n	y,n	y,y	-1	-1	5	2+6	10	200+400
	Crouching		n	y	y	+5	+5	3	4	6	400
	Jumping		-	-	-	-	-	5	22	-	600
Forward	Standing		n/n	y/n	y/n	-12	-12	5	3+8	24	400+900
	Crouching		n	y	y	-2	-2	4	5	17	1000
	Jumping		-	-	-	-	-	6	8	-	1000
Roundhouse	Standing		n/n	y/n	y/n	-7	-7	6	3+7	24	500+1300
	Crouching		n	n	y	down	-7	7	8	23	1500
	Jumping		-	-	-	-	-	5	8	-	1400

Moves with detached/invincible hitboxes:

-j.HK (tip of foot)

-far s.HP and d.HP (tip of fists, VERY small)

-far s.MK (tip of foot)

Throws

Tiger Carry

• Forward or Back + Fierce

Tiger Rage

• Forward or Back + Roundhouse (Mashable)

Special Moves

Tiger Shot

• Quarter Circle Forward + Punch
  • LP 800 -11/-11 10/44
  • MP 900 -12/-12 10/45
  • HP 1000 -13/-13 10/46

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Ground Tiger Shot

• Quarter Circle Forward + Kick
  • LK 700 -12/-12 12/45
  • MK 800 -13/-13 12/46
  • HK 900 -14/-14 12/47

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Tiger Uppercut

• Forward, Down, Down-Forward + Punch
  • LP 1800,900 down/-35 3/15/35
    • 3 frames full body, 4 frames lower body
  • MP 1900,900 down/-43 3/19/39
    • 3 frames full body, 4 frames lower body
  • HP 700+500+400+200x2 down/-35 3/[4]/[5]/[5]/[5]/[5]/42
    • 7 frames full body

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Tiger Crush

• Forward, Down, Down-Forward + Kick
  • LK 400+1100 down/-10 6/[6]/[5]/23
  • MK 500+1200 down/-12 5/[6]/[6]/24
  • HK 600+1300 down/-15 4/[6]/[7]/26

Super Combos

High Tiger Cannon

• Double Quarter Circle Forward + Punch
  • High Tiger Cannon super has one frame less startup before the super flash than Ground Tiger Cannon super. It makes a difference when punishing another Sagat's whiffed far s.HP with far s.HP xx High Tiger Cannon as opposed to far s.HP xx Ground Tiger Cannon.

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Ground Tiger Cannon

• Double Quarter Circle Back + Punch
  • LP down/-2
  • MP down/+1
  • HP down/+4

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Tiger Raid

• Double Quarter Circle Back + Kick

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Tiger Genocide

• Double Quarter Circle Forward + Kick

Bread and Butter Combos

s.jabx2, tiger uppercut/tiger knee

cr.short, s.jab, tiger uppercut/tiger knee

s.jab, s.fierce, tiger uppercut

cr.shortx2, tiger uppercut/tiger knee

C-Groove Combos

Crossover lk, 2 standing lp, crouching mk ~ lvl. 2 Ground Tiger Cannon ~ lvl. 1 Tiger Cannon

Advanced Strategy

Edited By: Haaris Abbasi & Markudea