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Capcom vs SNK 2/Vice

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Introduction

CVS2 Vice SNK Art.jpg
Health (at Ratio 2)
13600 Low
Stun
70 Average
Dash Length
19 Frames Very Long
Dash Type
Hop Corpse Hop=Yes, Proj. Hop=Yes
Run Speed
8 Below Average
Roll Distance
100 pixels Short
Roll Duration
26f Average
Wakeup Speed compared to Ryu
0f Average

Story

Vice is a servent of Orochi and a member of the Hakkeshu. She's usually seen side by side with her partner, Mature, though Mature doesn't make any appearance in CvS2. As a servant of Orochi, Vice takes orders directly from the Four Heavenly Kings, most notably Goenitz. Neither Vice nor Mature really liked Goenitz at all, but were dedicated to serving Orochi. Goenitz orders her to watch over Rugal Bernstein, who he thinks will be a good candidate to host Orochi when they summon it. Vice and Mature obey, and become Rugal's secretaries and personal assistants. Rugal is defeated at the end of KOF 95' however, which meant Vice and Mature needed a new job. That was to be getting Iori Yagami into KOF 96' and watching over him, as his Yagami bloodline tied him directly to Orochi. Through their tournament journey, Vice and Mature befriend Iori to some extent, and in the end decide to betray Goenitz after his defeat. They tried instead to summon Orochi directly through Iori. However, Goenitz was bitter, and with his last words, activated Iori's Riot of the Blood state. Iori wasn't able to control the surge of Orochi power through him, and murdered Vice and Mature before being defeated by Kyo Kusanagi.

Vice and Mature are dead, but Iori still sees them in his head as ghosts haunting him. They often make fun of him for his inability to kill Kyo Kusanagi like he wants to. When the King of Fighters XIII began, they were revealed to have resurrected into the mortal realm, and they don't seem to hold a grudge over being maimed to death, teaming with Iori once again.

Gameplay

When you hear a character called a grappler, you tend to envision a big, hulking, slow man with huge damage grabs. Vice is quite the opposite, fitting more into the nimble grappler archetype like Laura in SFV or Makoto in SFIII:3S. Vice has simple combos that give great knockdown, and two command grabs that also give great knockdowns, allowing her to loop strike/throw mixups over and over again. Her buttons and neutral presence are fairly solid too, with a few strong roll cancels and a long-reaching special with her 41236K Deicide. When Vice gets in close, she's probably the scariest grappler in the game, with her two command grabs 41236P Nail Bomb and 632146P Gorefest. Nail Bomb is the better of these as it is faster, but Gorefest has more range and damage for situations where that is preferred. Roll Cancel Nail Bomb is a dominant tool as well, as it will beat any buttons, invuln through reversals, and obviously grab them if they block.

Her strike mixup is no joke either, with a simple confirm from her 2LK using her 214P Mayhem special. This gives a solid knockdown and allows her to loop her okizeme both from strikes and throws, something the other big body grapplers can't do. Where Vice struggles is in neutral. As with any grappler, shes very prone to being zoned out, and she struggles a lot to deal with the ridiculous buttons and neutral presence of the top tiers. Her damage output is fairly low as well, forcing her to properly run her mixups multiple times to win a round where others can do one or two big damage combos and win. Her need for close range forces her to take more risks, but if she gets in, Vice can be a terrifying rushdown/grappler with great mixup potential.

Groove Selection

Best - C/N/A: C-Vice is likely her best pick by a small margin. Her supers are useful enough, especially her 6321463214K Negative Gain command grab super. Having access to rolls is important for Vice as well. Airblock helps her approach more safely, and Alpha Counters give her an escape tool on defense. N-Vice is arguably tied with or right behind C-Vice. N-Vice gets much better movement and a hop, which adds high/low to her mixups. Her hop HP is oppressive as well, and very hard to contest. Run on a grappler is powerful, and consistent level 1 access means she can do Negative Gain more, though the level 1 version is low damage. A-Vice sacrifices super usage for a lot more damage utilizing Custom Combo. Vice has plenty of situations to confirm a CC from, and obviously CC on it's own is a great utility. She maintains a lot of what makes C-Vice good too, outside of airblock. A-Vice is great if you want more damage from your mixups.

Useful - K/P: It's hard to consider these Grooves, as roll cancels are so important for Vice. However, they do have upsides. K-Vice gets access to Rage and Just Defend, making her offense a lot scarier. Rage damage buff is great, and she gets to threaten a level 3 Negative Gain for scary damage. Just Defend will usually score her a punish thanks to Mayhem as well. P-Vice similarly gets great reward from a parry, and can start her vortex from one easily. Lack of any supers hurts, but since the only super Vice really cares about is Negative Gain, it's not the biggest loss. With both of these Grooves, mastering JD/Parry is key, as without roll Vice is left a lot weaker.

Worst - S: S-Vice has basically nothing going on until she's in Desperation. Until then, she rarely has a super, doesn't have roll, and has to charge to actively gain meter, which gives up possible aggressive space. In Desperation, she gets to use level 1 Negative Gain a lot for mixups. This sounds great, but level 1 Negative Gain just isn't that damaging. Plus, it sends her fullscreen, ending her turn. S-Vice has basically nothing going good for her.



Vice is a nimble grappler with a scary strike/throw game that loops into itself. She has great mixup potential, especially in hop Grooves, and can put the opponents in a blender until the round ends. She just has to struggle through neutral first. Vice is best in C-Groove, N-Groove, and A-Groove.
Pros Cons
  • Looping Mixup: Her Mayhem special ends in a great knockdown, and so do both of her command grabs. This allows Vice to run a strike/throw mixup from every knockdown, and blend her opponents to death
  • Solid Buttons: Vice has plenty of good buttons, like 5MP, 2LK, 5HP, 2HP, 2HK, 5HK, and j.HP
  • RC Nail Bomb: RC Nail Bomb is a powerful roll cancel, both offensively and defensively. It's fast, unblockable, and gives her a great mixup chance afterwards
  • Custom Combo: Vice has great synergy with Custom Combo as a whole, allowing her to confirm into it from almost anything, and giving her much higher damage overall
  • Zoned Out: Vice struggles hard against the dominant neutral monsters in CvS2, like Sagat, Cammy, Chun-Li, etc. She has to play patiently and wait for an opening
  • Roll Reliant: Without RC Nail Bomb, Vice becomes much less scary, limiting her to Grooves with roll
  • Low Damage: She doesn't have a super to end combos with, and her meterless damage is just average, meaning Vice has to land multiple repeated mixups to add up damage



!!!THIS PAGE IS STILL WIP. IF YOU NEED FRAME DATA NOW, REFER TO THE CVS2 BIBLE OR LOOK THROUGH EDIT HISTORY TO FIND THE LAST EDIT CONTAINING FRAME DATA IF THERE WAS ONE!!!

Normal Moves

Far Normals

5LP

Far Jab
Far Light Punch
5LP / Far LP
Version Damage Stun Cancel Guard Parry Startup Active Recovery Total Adv Hit Adv Block Invul
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5MP

Far Strong
Far Medium Punch
5MP / Far MP
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5HP

Far Fierce
Far Heavy Punch
5HP / Far HP
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5LK

Far Short
Far Light Kick
5LK / Far LK
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5MK

Far Forward
Far Medium Kick
5MK / Far MK
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5HK

Far Roundhouse
Far Heavy Kick
5HK / Far HK
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Close Standing Normals

clLP

Close Jab
Close Light Punch
cl.LP
Version Damage Stun Cancel Guard Parry Startup Active Recovery Total Adv Hit Adv Block Invul
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clMP

Close Strong
cl.MP
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clHP

Close Fierce
Close Heavy Punch
cl.HP
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clLK

Close Short
Close Light Kick
cl.LK
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clMK

Close Forward
Close Medium Kick
cl.MK
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clHK

Close Roundhouse
Close Heavy Kick
cl.HK
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Crouching Normals

2LP

Crouch Jab
Crouching Light Punch
2LP / cr.LP
Version Damage Stun Cancel Guard Parry Startup Active Recovery Total Adv Hit Adv Block Invul
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2MP

Crouch Strong
Crouching Medium Punch
2MP / cr.MP
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2HP

Crouch Fierce
Crouching Heavy Punch
2HP / cr.HP
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2LK

Crouch Short
Crouching Light Kick
2LK / cr.LK
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2MK

Crouch Forward
Crouching Medium Kick
2MK / cr.MK
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2HK

Crouch Roundhouse
Crouching Heavy Kick
2HK / cr.HK
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Jumping Normals

j.LP

Jump Jab
Jumping Light Punch
j.LP
Version Damage Stun Cancel Guard Parry Startup Active Recovery Total Adv Hit Adv Block Invul
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j.MP

Jump Strong
Jumping Medium Punch
j.MP
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j.HP

Jump Fierce
Jumping Heavy Punch
j.HP
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j.LK

Jump Short
Jumping Light Kick
j.LK
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j.MK

Jump Forward
Jumping Medium Kick
j.MK
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j.HK

Jump Roundhouse
Jumping Heavy Kick
j.HK
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Command Normals

X

Generic Command
Generic Name
Generic Input
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Throws

X

Generic Throw Name
Punch Throw
Near Opponent, 4/6HP
Version Damage Stun Cancel Guard Parry Startup Active Recovery Total Adv Hit Adv Block Invul
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X

Generic Throw Name
Kick Throw
Near Opponent, 4/6HK
Version Damage Stun Cancel Guard Parry Startup Active Recovery Total Adv Hit Adv Block Invul
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Colors

Vice CvS2 colors.png


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