Neutral
Important Pokes
5MP is Lily's best space controlling button. It has amazing range and a very disjointed hitbox, but is not cancelable which makes it vulnerable to Drive Impact. It does recover reasonably quickly though, and will recover in time to counter Drive Impact when pressed from a +3 situation or better.
2HP has slightly less range than 5MP and is slower, but is cancelable which provides a lot of strong options on block or hit. When done close enough it hits twice, which makes reacting to Drive Impact relatively easy.
4HP has slightly less range again, and is also slower. An important detail about this move is that Lily doesn't lean forwards during the startup. This means it can be used to challenge things like various characters' 2MK at a range where the opponent would score a counter-hit against the startup of Lily's other normals.
5HP crumples on Punish Counter, making it a very strong whiff punish move. Follow up with Drive Rush into a combo.
2MP is a solid counter-poke. It doesn't have as much range as 5MP, but it's relatively fast and has a very good hitbox. Throw this out in front of the opponent and buffer a cancel into 236236P. If the opponent walks into it, presses a button, or tries to Drive Impact or Drive Rush, the Super comes out on hit for a big punish.
Offense
Blockstrings
Light Chains
Lily has great reach on her light punches. A typical light chain starts with 5LK for speed or 2LK for the low, followed by 1 or 2 light punches, typically 2LP due to having better range and less pushback.
2LP and 5LP do not form a true blockstring, which makes them vulnerable to perfect parry or reversals. On the other hand they will always catch an opponent trying to jump or backdash without needing to add a delay.
A 3-hit chain can be easily confirmed on hit into any of the following:
| Move | Notes |
|---|---|
| DR~5LP, 2HP/5MK/2MP | 2HP only combos if close enough. |
| 236KK | Less damage than drive rush, but also less expensive. |
| W.236MK / W.236LK / W.236KK | W.236KK is the only one that reaches from the absolute tip of 2LP range. W.236LK works from slightly further away than W.236MK. |
| SA1 / W.SA2 / SA3 | SA2 does not reach without Windclad. |
A 2-hit chain also combos into any of the above, but can also be canceled into 623P for a resourceless combo.
Tick Throw
A tick throw means to tag the opponent with an attack and then immediately throw them. It's particularly important for Lily due to the long range of Mexican Typhoon.
- An advantage of +5 or more requires a delayed throw to avoid whiffing during the opponent's throw invulnerability.
- An advantage of +2 to +4 results in a perfectly timed throw that cannot be interrupted with a 4 frame normal.
- An advantage of +1 allows throws to be interrupted with a 4 frame move, but the opponent can be conditioned to block using Lily's own 4 frame 5LK.
- Light normals with a frame disadvantage (*) are still effective as the opponent can be conditioned to block by chaining into another light attack.
The following table lists the advantage of various moves, and how fast the opponent's attack must be to interrupt the throw.
If it is possible to interrupt the grab in burnout then then interrupt column will include a second value.
| Tick | Block | Burnout | Hit | Counter | Interrupt | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Any HP > DR | +Lots | +Lots | +Lots | +Lots | Hit-confirmable. | |
| 5MK > DR | +7 | +11 | +10 | +12 | Hit-confirmable. | |
| 2MK > DR | +4 | +8 | +10 | +12 | Hit-confirmable. | |
| DR~5LP | +3 | +7 | +10 | +12 | ||
| DR~2LP | +3 | +7 | +9 | +11 | ||
| DR~5MK | +3 | +7 | +6 | +8 | ||
| DR~2LK | +2 | +6 | +6 | +8 | ||
| DR~2HP | +2 | +6 | +4 | +6 | Hit-confirmable. | |
| DR~4HP | +2 | +6 | +9 | +11 | Hit-confirmable. | |
| W.236KK | +2 | +6 | ||||
| 5LK > DR | +1 | +5 | +6 | +8 | 4f | Hit-confirmable. |
| W.236LK/MK/HK | +1 | +5 | 4f | |||
| DR~3HP | +1 | +5 | +6 | +8 | 4f | Hit-confirmable. |
| DR~5LK | ±0* | +4 | +5 | +7 | 5f | |
| 5LP | -1* | +3 | +6 | +8 | 6f | |
| 2LP | -1* | +3 | +5 | +7 | 6f | |
| 2LK | -2* | +2 | +2 | +4 | 7f | Extremely good against a burned out opponent. |
| 5LK | -4* | ±0* | +1 | +3 | 9f / 5f | |
| 5LP > DR | -1 | +3 | +6 | +8 | 6f | Drive rush freeze makes the hit reactable. |
| 2LP > DR | -1 | +3 | +5 | +7 | 6f | Drive rush freeze makes the hit reactable. |
| 5MK | -1 | +3 | +2 | +4 | 6f | Extremely good against a burned out opponent. |
| 4HP | -2 | +2 | +5 | +7 | 7f | |
| 2HP | -2 | +2 | ±0 | +2 | 7f | |
| DI | -3 | +1 | 8f / 4f | Works after locking a cornered burned out opponent with 2HP > DI. | ||
| 214MP | -8 | -4 | +2 | +4 | After a combo, can leave the opponent in range for microwalk 360LP. |
Light chains are particularly important, as they allow for using a command grab mixup at any moment.
- A light attack followed by command grab loses to jump, backdash, and (if the opponent isn't burned out) being interrupted by a fast attack (4~6f).
- A light attack chained into another light attack beats all of the above.
- To deal with both options the opponent must commit to an invincible reversal.
The strength of grab to use depends on how far the opponent gets pushed away. Assuming starting from right next to the opponent or after making them block a Windclad Condor Spire:
- 1 light attack into 360MP, DR~360HP, or DR~Throw.
- 2 light attacks into DR~360MP.
- In the corner, any light attack into 360HP, or point-blank 2LP into Throw.
- In the corner, 2 light attacks into 360LP or DR~360HP.
- In the corner, 3 light attacks into DR~360LP.
- Any of the above using 360PP instead for more damage.
Technically the corner versions also work midscreen, but will whiff if the opponent walks backwards, and Lily's low options are not good enough to dissuade walking backwards. Also note that for longer chains, 2LK must be accompanied by 2LP to avoid pushing the opponent out of range.
It's very important to condition the opponent to block before committing to command grabs, as the punishment for whiffing one is often much higher than the reward for landing one.
For example, whiffing 360PP when the opponent has Critical Art available allows them to erase 5 drive bars. It's hard to salvage a round from there even if starting with full health.
Another important thing to be aware of is that if the opponent gets hit by 5LP or 2LP instead of blocking, the long hitstun causes a non-delayed throw to whiff, which gifts the opponent an optimal punish counter combo. This problem can be avoided by using 2LK or 5LK.
Condor Wind
2HP is the best for this as it has a lot of range and the most blockstun. 2HP > 214PP is a true blockstring and one of the safest ways to generate stocks. Another true blockstring option is DR~2HP/4HP/6HP > 214MP.
To avoid using gauge, Lily can play a guessing game with the opponent between canceling into 214LP or 214MP/214HP. Both options are unsafe, but the ways to punish them are different and do not usually overlap.
2HP > 214LP is a staggering -25 on block which makes it safe against Drive Impact, but punishable by basically anything else.
2HP > 214MP/214HP counters most things that would punish 214LP, but is vulnerable to invincible moves and armored moves, including Drive Impact.
Drive Impact and armor can be countered by confirming into Level 3 Super. It's somewhat difficult to react, so it can be helpful to hold the button for a moment to delay the hit and buy some extra time to react. Modern controls can automatically hitconfirm the Super with Heavy Assisted Combo, which performs 2HP > 214MP > 214214P.
Condor Spire
Condor Spire without Windclad stocks can be spaced to have the advantage on block.
In particular, 2HP > 236LK is +1 on block if 2HP connects at maximum range.
The OD version is fast with a lot of reach, which makes it practical to throw out raw from the right range.
The Medium and Heavy versions are generally too slow to get away with outside of combos and blockstrings.
If slightly misspaced to not have the advantage but still be safe on block, the common response is for the opponent to immediately press their 4 frame normal; especially ±0 or -1 where their throw will lose to 5LK, or at -3 where they might mistake it as being punishable. The predictable timing of this makes it very reasonable to attempt a Perfect Parry into 360HP.
Windclad Condor Spire is almost always +1 on block.
5LK will interrupt the opponent's attempts to mash or jump out.
Throws will lose if the opponent mashes their 4 frame move, so they must be conditioned to block or parry before command grab becomes a viable option.
OD Windclad Condor Spire is almost always +2 on block. Lily's throws will beat mashing here, which lets her lean on them a bit more heavily.
This move is very well suited for just throwing out in neutral as it cleanly beats projectiles and Drive Impact.
The most reliable way for an opponent to deal with this move is to block and drive reversal. If you have more drive gauge than the opponent, it can be worthwhile to just keep doing it until the opponent either runs out of drive gauge or decides to take the mixup.
vs. Burnout
Blockstrings
Lily has airtight blockstrings when using Windclad Condor Spire against an opponent in burnout.
The following are airtight blockstrings from any range, even if the first hit of Condor Spire whiffs:
- 2HP/6HP > W.236MK/LK/KK
- 4HP/5HP/5MK > W.236LK/KK
Using a heavier version of Spire than the above deals more chip damage, but requires being closer to the opponent to avoid leaving a gap.
W.236KK allows the longest range, followed by W.236LK, W.236MK, and then W.236HK with the shortest range.
W.236HK does not work with Light normals, but the other versions work with any normal if close enough to the opponent.
After making the opponent block a Windclad spire, the blockstring can be looped for as long as Windclad stocks are available.
- W.236K > 2LK > 2LP > W.236LK
Airtight loop that hits the opponent low with 2LK if they try to jump out. - W.236K > 5LK > W.236MK
Doesn't hit low, but deals more chip damage. - W.236K > 5LK > DR~5LK > 236KK > 236236K
An expensive airtight sequence that deals more chip damage than W.236KK > 236236K
At any point in the above blockstrings, it's possible to stop and go for a grab, or do nothing to bait a reversal.
Without Windclad stocks, some good meterless patterns to follow are:
- 3 Light Attacks, 2HP > 236LK
Beats or trades with most counter-poke attempts but loses to certain lows like Ken's 2MK.
The Light Spire is an airtight blockstring spaced to still be advantageous on block.
The extra blockstun from burnout makes 2HP safe against forward jump unless the opponent has a dive. - 3 Light Attacks, 4HP > 236LK
Leaves a bigger gap but the sheer range of it beats the counter-pokes that the above would lose to.
The extra blockstun from burnout makes 4HP safe against forward jump unless the opponent has a dive. - 2 Light Attacks, 2LP > 236LK
Canceling the last light into spire catches the opponent trying to jump away from either of the above.
Even if too far to catch them on the way up, they can still be hit on the way down with 2HP or 623P.
If spaced perfectly the spire can still be ±0 on block, but it does leave a gap for the opponent to anti-air.
The exact light attacks to use depends on the distance. Here are some examples:
Airtight strings that set up 2HP distance.
- W.236K, 5LK > 5LP > 2LP, 2HP
- W.236K, 2LK > 2LP > 2LP, 2HP
- W.236KK, 5LK > 2LP > 2LP, 2HP
Moving the low to the 2nd hit, but with a gap after the initial spire.
- W.236K, 2LP > 2LK > 2LP, 2HP
Keeping the opponent slightly closer to avoid whiffing 4HP and/or 214HP.
- W.236K, 5LK > 2LP > 2LP, 4HP/2HP
- W.236KK, 2LP > 2LP > 2LP, 4HP/2HP
Setting up a ±0 spire with the ability to anti-air Tomahawk Buster if the opponent backjumps out. Vulnerable to backdash.
- W.236K, 2LK > 2LK > 2LP > 236LK
- W.236KK, 5LK > 2LK > 2LP > 236LK
If you choose to set up an advantageous 236LP, it can be looped by alternating between 2 and 3 light normals for each string.
- W.236K, 5LK > 2LP > 2LP, 2HP > 236LP, 5LK > 2LP, 2HP > 236LK, 5LK > 2LP > 2LP > 2HP ... etc
Adjustments can be made on the fly to push the opponent a slightly different distance away for different setups.
In order from least to most pushback: 2LP < 5LK=5LP < 2LK
So if you want to push them further away you can swap out 2LP for 5LP, or vice-versa to keep them closer.
Drive Impact
| Gap | Counter |
|---|---|
| 0 | No gap. Locks on block. Combos on hit. |
| (N) | No gap, but can choose to create a gap of up to N by delaying the DI cancel. |
| 1-2 | Opponent can only escape with an invincible Super Art. For most characters this is the case up to 5 frames. Exceptions are listed below. |
| 3+ | JP and Marisa can counter with their armored special moves. |
| 4+ | Zangief can counter with his armored Heavy Punch. |
| 5+ | Dhalsim can teleport out. |
| 6+ | Opponent can interrupt with reversal throw. |
| 8+ | Opponent can jump out (Except Lily and Zangief who need 9 frames). |
| Block | Hit | DR~Block | DR~Hit | Notes | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6HP > DI | 2 | (1) | 0 | 0 | Beats armored moves on block. Combos on hit to set up meaty Drive Impact. |
| 2HP > DI | (2) | 2 | 0 | 0 | Try to confirm into combo on hit, and delay cancel into Drive Impact on block. |
| 4HP > DI | 3 | (3) | (2) | 0 | Delayed cancel after Drive Rush beats armored moves. |
| 5HP > DI | 4 | 3 | (3) | (2) | Extremely good against characters without armor. Delayed cancel after Drive Rush beats armored moves. |
| 5MK > DI | 6 | 7 | 2 | 3 | Extremely good after drive rush. JP and Marisa can intentionally get hit by DR~5MK to create a gap for their armored special. |
| 2MK > DI | 9 | 7 | 5 | 3 | |
| 5LK > DI | 12 | 11 | 8 | 7 | |
| 5LP > DI | 13 | 10 | 9 | 6 | |
| 2LP > DI | 13 | 11 | 9 | 7 |
Okizeme and Mixups
- All scenarios assume that opponent will Back Rise midscreen when possible, unless otherwise stated.
- With a large advantage it's possible to do any of the options listed for one of the shorter advantages above it, but a manual delay or a frame-kill setup is needed.
e.g. It's possible to go for a throw after a +9 knockdown, but it needs to be delayed by 4 to 7 frames to be effective.
| Knockdown | KD Adv. | Oki/Notes |
|---|---|---|
| 236KK, 66, 66 (Corner) W.236LK, 214LP DR~5LK (Block) |
+0 | 5LK : Trades with 4f jab, staying in range to grab with 360LP/PP. - Can punish reversal SA by canceling the startup into Parry or SA during the freeze. |
| (Corner) W.236HK, 214MP W.236K (Block) DR~2MP/3HP (Block) |
+1 | 5LK 360P/Throw : Loses to 4f jab |
| W.236LK, 9 (Corner) W.236MK, 214LP W.236KK (Block) DR~2LK/2HP/4HP (Block) |
+2 | 2LK : Low 5LK : Less pushback, more damage 360P/Throw - Note that W.236LK setups allow the opponent to switch sides if they don't backroll. |
| 214MP (Hit) | +2 (Far) | Micro-walk 360LP/PP : Loses to jump or midscreen back-walk 2LP : Catches jump. Combo into DR~5LP/2LP or W.236KK 2MK > DR~5LP : Leaves a gap but catches back-walk, DI-Reactable |
| W.236HK, 236MK W.236KK, 236HK DR~5LP/2LP/5MK (Block) |
+3 | 2LK : Low 5LP/2LP 360P/Throw - Note that 236K setups allow the opponent to switch sides if they don't backroll. |
| W.236MK, 9 W.236HK, 9j.X (Whiff) |
+4 | 2LK : Low 5LP/2LP : Safe vs 13f reversal (Ed OD/SA1, Lily SA1) 360P/Throw |
| 214214P (HKD) | +4 (Far) | |
| W.236LK, 66, 66 (Corner) W.236HK, 214LP (Corner) W.236KK, 214MP |
+5 | 2LK : Low 5LP/2LP : Safe vs 12f reversal (Kimberly SA1) 360P/Throw : Post-knockdown only. Whiffs when +5 on block/hit. |
| (Corner) 236236P, 66 | +6 | 5LP : Meaty (+7 OH, +0 OB) : Safe vs 11f reversal 2HP : Confirmable, Trades into 2HP combo vs 4f jab, DI-Reactable 2MK > W.236LK : Low, DI-Break, +1 OB, Trades into 2LP combo vs 4f jab |
| W.236HK, 236LK W.236HK, 9 W.236MK, 66, 66 (Corner) W.236LK, 214[PP] (Corner) W.236KK, 236236P, 66 (Corner) 214PP > W.236236K, 66, 66 |
+7 | 5LP : Meaty (+8 OH, +1 OB) : Safe vs 10f reversal (AKI/Jamie/Manon SA1, Dhalsim/Ed SA3) 2HP : Confirmable, DI-Reactable 2MK > W.236LK : Low, DI-Break, +1 OB |
| (Corner) W.236KK, 214LP | +9 | 2HP : Confirmable, DI-Reactable 2MK > W.236LK : Low, DI-Break, +1 OB |
| W.236HK, 66, 66 | +10 | 2HP : Confirmable, DI-Reactable 4HP : Trades into 2HP combo vs 4f jab, DI-Safe 2MK > W.236LK : Low, DI-Break, +1 OB |
| 236LK, 66 | +12 | 2HP > 214MP : Meaty true blockstring, confirmable into SA3 on hit or to beat DI |
| W.236KK, 66, 66 | +14 | DR~5LP : +10 OH, +3 OB DR~360P/Throw 4HP : Meaty (+6 OH, -1 OB), DI-Safe 2HP : Meaty (+3 OH, +1 OB), DI-Safe, true blockstring into 214MP |
| 623P, 66 | +15 | DR~5LP : +10 OH, +3 OB DR~360P/Throw 4HP : Meaty (+7 OH, +0 OB), DI-Safe, confirmable into SA3 |
| 236MK, 66 236HK, 66 |
+16 | DR~5LP : +10 OH, +3 OB DR~360P/Throw 4HP : Meaty (+8 OH, +1 OB), DI-Safe, confirmable into SA3 |
| Forward Throw | +20 | DR~dl.2HP DR~dl.360LP/PP/Throw (Corner) Walkup 360MP/PP : 360HP is possible but strict. - Be aware that a 6f OD reversal beats DR and cannot be blocked in time. |
| (Anything listed below) | +21 or greater | DR~dl.2HP/4HP DR~dl.360P/PP/Throw DR~Block : -5 (Reversal bait) |
| 236236P | +27 (Far) | (Corner) 66 : +6 (Corner) 236LK : Meaty (KD +44 OH, +3 OB), DI-Safe (Corner) DR~4HP : Meaty (+12 OH, +5 OB), DI-Safe |
| W.236KK, 236236P | +28 (Far) | (Corner) 66 : +7 (Corner) 236LK : Meaty (KD +45 OH, +4 OB), DI-Safe |
| 360P (HKD) 360PP (HKD) |
+28 (Far) | DR~dl.2HP DR~dl.4HP DR~dl.360LP/PP |
| 214HP | +30 (Far) | |
| 623PP 2HK (HKD) |
+32 | 236MK : Meaty (KD +49 OH, +4 OB) |
| Back Throw | +32 (Far) | (Corner) 236MK : Meaty (KD +49 OH, +4 OB) |
| 236LK W.623PP |
+33 | 66 : +12 236HK : Meaty (KD +46 OH, +1 OB) DR~3HP : +6 OH, +1 OB 236LK can gain up to 12f more advantage by hitting late. |
| 623P | +36 | 66 : +15 236HK : Meaty (KD +49 OH, +4 OB) DR~3HP : +7 OH, +2 OB Can gain advantage as an anti-air or hitting from a distance against a standing opponent. |
| 236MK 236HK |
+37 | 66 : +16 DR~3HP : +8 OH, +3 OB Can gain up to 12f more advantage by hitting late. |
| 214PP | +39 (Far) | 10f Safe Jump (Ed) |
| 2HK (Juggle) | +40~41 | |
| W.623P | +40~ | Advantage varies depending on combo height and opponent distance. +40 after a minimum height juggle. +41 against a grounded opponent. |
| 236KK 236236K |
+42 | 66, 66 : +0 7f Safe Jump (Blanka, Dhalsim SA2, Manon SA2) 236KK can gain up to 12f more advantage by hitting late. 236236K can gain or lose advantage when hitting an airborne opponent. |
| +43 | 6f Safe Jump (Dee Jay, Jamie, Kimberly, Rashid) | |
| Crumple > DR~2HP > DR~4HP > 236MK Crumple > 4HP > DR~4HP > W.623HP (Corner) Crumple > 4HP > *.236KK > 236236K |
+44 | 5f Safe Jump |
| Late-hit 236LK | +33~45 | One of the above depending on how late it hits. 66, 66 : +3 (After perfect meaty hit) |
| W.236236K | +46 (Far) | (Corner) 66, 66 : +4 (Corner) 214[PP] : +6 |
| W.236LK CH/PC 2HK (HKD) |
+47 | 66, 66 : +5 9 : +2 (side-switch if opponent doesn't roll) (Corner) 214LP : +0 (Corner) 214[PP] : +7 |
| PC 5HK 214PP > W.236236K |
+47 (Far) | (Corner) 66, 66 : +5 (Corner) 214LP : +0 (Corner) 214[PP] : +7 |
| *.623PP > j.PPP | +47 (Far) | Advantage varies depending on combo height and distance. |
| W.623PP > W.j.PPP | +48 (Far) | Advantage varies depending on combo height and distance. |
| W.236MK | +49 | 66, 66 : +7 9 : +4 236LK : +4 (side-switch if opponent doesn't roll) (Corner) 214LP : +2 |
| Late-hit 236MK Late-hit 236HK |
+37~49 | One of the above depending on how late it hits. |
| W.236HK | +52 | 66, 66 : +10 9 : +7 236LK : +7 236MK : +3 (side-switch if opponent doesn't roll) (Corner) 214LP : +5 (Corner) 214MP : +1 |
| Late-hit 236KK | +42~54 | One of the above depending on how late it hits. |
| W.236KK | +56 | 66, 66 : +14 236HK : +3 (side-switch if opponent doesn't roll) (Corner) 214LP : +9 (Corner) 214MP : +5 |
Drive Rush
When canceling a normal into Drive Rush on block and following it up with another normal, there may be an interruptible gap in the blockstring. The following table lists these blockstring gaps when performed at the fastest possible timing.
| Gap Value | Meaning |
|---|---|
| 0 | True Blockstring (no gap) if input with fastest button timing; can still lose to Drive Reversal |
| 1 to 4 | Small blockstring gap; opponent can interrupt with an invincible reversal; a 4f gap can trade with 4f normal attack |
| 5+ | Large blockstring gap; opponent can interrupt without an invincible attack |
| 5LK | 2LK | 5LP/2LP | 5MK | 2MP | 5MP | 2MK/2HP | 5HP/2HK | 5HK/4HP | 6HP | 3HP | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 5LP~DR | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 15 | 19 | 26 |
| 5HP~DR | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 5 | 9 | 16 |
| 5LK~DR | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 13 | 17 | 24 |
| 5MK~DR | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 7 | 11 | 18 |
| 2LP~DR | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 14 | 18 | 25 |
| 2HP~DR | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 5 | 12 |
| 2MK~DR | 0 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 10 | 14 | 21 |
| 4HP~DR | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 4 | 8 | 15 |
| 6HP~DR | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 7 | 14 |
The following table lists the general BnB combo routes when canceling a button into Drive Rush on hit.
| Starter | Hit Adv. | Combo Route |
|---|---|---|
| 5LP~DR | +6 | (Close) DR~5LP, 2HP > ... (Far) DR~5LP/2LP, 5MK > ... (Far) DR~5LP/2LP, 2MP > Super |
| 5LK~DR | ||
| 2LP~DR | ||
| 5MK~DR | +10 | DR~2HP > ... |
| 2MK~DR | ||
| 5HP~DR | +14 | DR~4HP, 5MK > ... DR~4HP, 2MP > Super |
| 2HP~DR | +15 | |
| 4HP~DR | +17 | |
| 6HP~DR |
Defense
Reversals
- SA2 : 236236K
- 9f startup. Full invulnerability.
- Can be safe-meaty jabbed by A.K.I., Blanka, Cammy, Chun-Li, Dee Jay, Guile, Jamie, Juri, Ken, Rashid, Ryu.
- Cannot be safe-meaty jabbed by Dhalsim, E.Honda, JP, Lily, Luke, Manon, Marisa, Zangief.
- Also catches anyone silly enough to try to bait a throw by jumping.
- Range increases when Windclad, allowing it to catch some meaty fireballs.
- SA3 : 214214P
- 7f startup. Full invulnerability.
- Cannot be safe-meaty jabbed but loses to jump.
- SA1 : 236236P
- 13f startup. Strike/Throw invulnerability.
- Beats Throws and Medium/Heavy attacks.
- Cannot punish most light attacks and loses to projectiles.
- 623P
- 6f startup (light version). Anti-Air invulnerability.
- Beats certain airborne meaties like E.Honda's headbutt.
- W.623LP / W.623PP
- 4f startup. Anti-Air invulnerability.
- Beats safe jumps, but can be baited with an empty jump.
- 623PP
- 6f startup. Throw/Anti-Air invulnerability.
- Beats throws but not much else. It's usually better to conserve drive gauge with a jump or backdash instead.
- 360LP/360PP
- No invulnerability.
- Beats shimmy and delayed buttons. Loses to everything else.
- Backdash
- Avoids throws and usually provides a small frame advantage, putting the opponent in a strike throw mixup.
- If the opponent times their throw particularly late, they can be directly punished with 5LK, 360P or a backthrow into the corner.
- Forward Jump
- Avoids throws and delayed attacks, but is vulnerable to early attacks, and can be anti-aired after a throw whiff.
- Inputting j.PP directly above the opponent's head can mess up their anti-air, resulting in a safe escape from the corner.
- Immediate j.PP or j.PPP can punish the opponent's throw, but is extremely unsafe on block. The OD version is more likely to punish in time as it moves faster.
- Inputting a backwards Air SA2 after crossing up can punish the opponent's anti-air attempt (risky call-out).
- Jump Cancel 360LP/360PP
- Jump startup can be canceled into 360LP/PP. End the command grab input with up, then delay pressing punch until the last moment before leaving the ground.
- With the right timing this can punish both throws and delayed attacks, but loses to meaty attacks and jumps.
Anti-Airs
- 623P
- Anti-air invulnerability.
- Heavy version can sometimes allow an opponent land from an empty jump and block. Use other versions for consistency.
- The Windclad version must be done late to get all the hits, otherwise it results in poor damage.
- 623PP > j.PPP
- Deals a ton of damage. Especially with Windclad stocks.
- Can also be followed up with SA2 in the corner, absolutely destroying an opponent for attempting to jump out.
- SA2 : 236236K
- Hits directly above Lily in both directions.
- Fully invincible all the way up, meaning it can be used to anti-air JP when there are Amnesia orbs on the screen.
- 2HP
- Hits above, in front of, and behind Lily, sending the opponent back to the front.
- On Counter Hit, combos into 214HP/214MP/236HK/236MK.
- Does not lead to a combo on regular hit. The above specials can be timed to hit meaty but are vulnerable to reversals. Beware of an opponent taking the hit with an empty jump and mashing SA3 on their landing.
- SA3 : 214214P
- Can be used to catch the landing frames of jump attacks and dive kicks.
- Not effective against empty jumps, as the opponent can cancel their landing into a reversal or backdash.
Anti-Projectile
- W.236KK
- Projectile invulnerable for the entire duration of its active frames.
- Confirms into SA2 on hit.
- Near the corner it also confirms into W.623P or SA1.
- *.j.PP / *.j.PPP
- Can be used on reaction to a projectile if already in the air when the opponent throws it, making neutral jump a strong mid-range option.
- The OD version is more consistent due to moving faster.
- j.MP / j.HK
- Lily's longest range jumping normals.
- j.HK has slightly less range but leads to a bigger reward.
- 5MP
- Can interrupt projectile startup from a good distance.
- 4HP
- Has enough range and a small enough hurtbox to hit an opponent through their projectile, trading hits.
- 214MP/214MP/214PP
- Can tag the startup of a projectile from a very long distance, or even trade hits after the startup.
- It's possible to do this in front of a projectile with no intention of hitting the opponent, trading health for a Windclad stock. Be particularly careful about doing this at longer distances, as the opponent often has time to chase the hit with a combo.
- 2LP
- It's possible to intentionally jab a slow projectile before it reaches you to take the hit and get rid of it early, creating a gap if the opponent attempts to Drive Rush after it.
- This can't be excessively relied on due to the health cost, but is practical as a last moment emergency measure when about to block a slow fireball at perfect Drive Rush range. Especially during burnout.
- W.236236K / 214214P
- Can be used on reaction to close range projectiles. Tags the opponent's hands from deceptively far away.
- SA2 requires Windclad for the extra range.
Fighting vs. Lily
