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SvC Chaos: SNK Vs Capcom/Dan Hibiki

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火引 弾, Hibiki Dan
Difficulty Mostly Easy
Max Mode Needed? Doesn't Need It
Tier Placement Trash (E)
Standing Hitbox Average
Crouching Hitbox Short

Introduction

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The great master of the Saikyo Style himself, Dan Hibiki, whose dojo is totally not failing. Made as a joke character to mock the likes of Ryo Sakazaki and Robert Garcia from AOF, as a way for Capcom to get back at SNK for making Ryo's likeness based on both Ryu and Ken in SF, he plays very closely to Ryo and Robert, and even mimics some of the mannerisms of Ryo's sister, Yuri Sakazaki. In fact, he mimics the trio so much so that he's always quite bad in every game he's in (save maybe Street Fighter Alpha 1). If you've seen Dan in any other fighting games, you most likely already know he's quite bad here as well, though there is a blessing in disguise to be had - he is not the worst character in the game at least! But overall, if you want a shoto, you have a ton of other better choices and you likely are looking to play Dan to avoid his shenanigans, or you just love the dude.

Pros Cons
  • Simple gameplay; you can pick up and play
  • Almost zero execution requirements
  • Combos sorta work
  • Unblockable move
  • Passable supers
  • Command grab Exceed
  • Tons of fanservice
  • Special and super taunts
  • Fun to play because he's Dan Hibiki
  • Awful projectiles
  • Moves whiff on crouching and small characters like Choi
  • Vertical DP with little horizontal reach
  • Taunts after his normal throws leaving him unsafe on hit
  • Almost zero light confirms
  • Unblockable is unsafe on hit
  • Poor reach on his Exceed
  • No Shinkuu Gadouken
  • Can't zone, punish, or move around well in a game centered around all three
  • Hard to master
  • Overall garbage because he's Dan Hibiki

How to select Dan Hibiki (Outside of Super Plus)

  • You wish to select Dan? While you're on the character select screen, do the inputs below, before the timer reaches 10 seconds:
  • (While holding start) Down, Left(7x)
  • Console Method: Hold R1/RT above Dhalsim

Moves List

Normal Moves

Close Normals

cl.A
Damage Counter Dmg Guard G. Crush Stun Meter Cancel Startup Active Recovery Total Hit Adv Block Adv Invulnerability
- - Mid - - - - 4 5 9 18 -2 -4 -
  • Cancelable and can combo into itself, but it whiffs against low crouching characters and Choi standing.

cl.B
Damage Counter Dmg Guard G. Crush Stun Meter Cancel Startup Active Recovery Total Hit Adv Block Adv Invulnerability
- - Mid - - - - 5 6 8 19 -2 -4 -
  • Good move. It's cancelable and doesn't whiff against low crouching characters.

cl.C
Damage Counter Dmg Guard G. Crush Stun Meter Cancel Startup Active Recovery Total Hit Adv Block Adv Invulnerability
- - Mid - - - - 8 6 13 27 +1 -1 -
  • One of his most damaging cancelable moves, and is best for heavy starter combos. It's fast, and doesn't whiff against low crouching characters and standing Choi.

cl.D
Damage Counter Dmg Guard G. Crush Stun Meter Cancel Startup Active Recovery Total Hit Adv Block Adv Invulnerability
- - Mid - - - - 12 4 17 33 -1 -3 -
  • Good kick. It's not cancelable with average damage. Although it looks like a high attack, it can hit Choi standing, but whiffs against low crouching characters. Dan moves a little forward when he uses this move.

Far Normals

st.A
Damage Counter Dmg Guard G. Crush Stun Meter Cancel Startup Active Recovery Total Hit Adv Block Adv Invulnerability
- - Mid - - - - 6 4 9 19 -1 -3 -
  • Not the best to use. It's not a rapid fire move, although it's cancelable. Whiffs against low crouching characters and Choi standing.

st.B
Damage Counter Dmg Guard G. Crush Stun Meter Cancel Startup Active Recovery Total Hit Adv Block Adv Invulnerability
- - Mid - - - - 6 7 10 23 -5 -7 -
  • Best poking weapon. He doesn't have an active hitbox on the ground, thus this move whiffs against low crouching characters and Choi standing. Not cancelable.

st.C
Damage Counter Dmg Guard G. Crush Stun Meter Cancel Startup Active Recovery Total Hit Adv Block Adv Invulnerability
- - Mid - - - - 13 7 17 37 -4 -6 -
  • Not so good startup. Looks like an overhead attack, but it isn't, nor is it cancelable. Good damage, though.

st.D
Damage Counter Dmg Guard G. Crush Stun Meter Cancel Startup Active Recovery Total Hit Adv Block Adv Invulnerability
- - Mid - - - - 13 4 17 34 -1 -3 -
  • Same as cl.D, but it whiffs against standing Choi.

Crouch Normals

cr.A
Damage Counter Dmg Guard G. Crush Stun Meter Cancel Startup Active Recovery Total Hit Adv Block Adv Invulnerability
- - Mid - - - - 7 5 8 20 -1 -3 -
  • Slow, cannot combo on itself, but it's cancellable.

cr.B
Damage Counter Dmg Guard G. Crush Stun Meter Cancel Startup Active Recovery Total Hit Adv Block Adv Invulnerability
- - Low - - - - 6 7 7 20 -2 -4 -
  • Best crouching move. Fast, good reach and cancelable. You can spam it in some combos. Cannot combo on itself.

cr.C
Damage Counter Dmg Guard G. Crush Stun Meter Cancel Startup Active Recovery Total Hit Adv Block Adv Invulnerability
- - Mid - - - - 6 3, (1), 11 19 40 -14 -16 -
  • Can make for a good anti-air with good damage, and it's cancelable too. One of his most damaging cancelable moves

cr.D
Damage Counter Dmg Guard G. Crush Stun Meter Cancel Startup Active Recovery Total Hit Adv Block Adv Invulnerability
- - Low - - - - 10 3 24 37 SKD -9 -
  • It's like the Shoto sweep. It's fast, and the reach is good.

Jumping Normals

nj.A
Damage Counter Dmg Guard G. Crush Stun Meter Cancel Startup Active Recovery Total Hit Adv Block Adv Invulnerability
- - Overhead - - - - 7 8 - - - - -
  • Neutral Jumping Attack
  • Same properties as his j.A, but not reliable as a combo starter.

j.A
Damage Counter Dmg Guard G. Crush Stun Meter Cancel Startup Active Recovery Total Hit Adv Block Adv Invulnerability
- - Overhead - - - - 7 8 - - - - -
  • Diagonal Jumping Attack
  • Good air-to-air poke. You can potentially use it as a jump-in to start combos.

nj.B
Damage Counter Dmg Guard G. Crush Stun Meter Cancel Startup Active Recovery Total Hit Adv Block Adv Invulnerability
- - Overhead - - - - 8 8 - - - - -
  • Neutral Jumping Attack
  • Looks like a crouching kick attack in the air. Has good reach. Not reliable in combos.

j.B
Damage Counter Dmg Guard G. Crush Stun Meter Cancel Startup Active Recovery Total Hit Adv Block Adv Invulnerability
- - Overhead - - - - 8 8 - - - - -
  • Diagonal Jumping Attack
  • Odd kick that can surprise the opponent if they try to do a DP. Reliable in combos.

nj.C
Damage Counter Dmg Guard G. Crush Stun Meter Cancel Startup Active Recovery Total Hit Adv Block Adv Invulnerability
- - Overhead - - - - 10 4 - - - - -
  • Neutral Jumping Attack
  • Same properties as j.C, but is easy to hit low crouching characters. Reliable as a combo starter.

j.C
Damage Counter Dmg Guard G. Crush Stun Meter Cancel Startup Active Recovery Total Hit Adv Block Adv Invulnerability
- - Overhead - - - - 10 4 - - - - -
  • Diagonal Jumping Attack
  • Good damage, but can be hard to hit on low crouching characters. Due to this, it can be unreliable as a combo starter.

nj.D
Damage Counter Dmg Guard G. Crush Stun Meter Cancel Startup Active Recovery Total Hit Adv Block Adv Invulnerability
- - Overhead - - - - 10 4 - - - - -
  • Neutral Jumping Attack
  • Pretty bad move. Its angle and hitbox make it only good if the opponent is above you, but otherwise makes for a poor air-to-air.

j.D
Damage Counter Dmg Guard G. Crush Stun Meter Cancel Startup Active Recovery Total Hit Adv Block Adv Invulnerability
- - Overhead - - - - 10 4 - - - - -
  • Diagonal Jumping Attack
  • Air move with long startup but good damage. Can be reliable in combos if you hit it very deep.

Command Moves

Well, Dan don't have command moves, sadly. But he have Special Taunts! They're here:

Shagami Chouhatsu

  • PP (While crouching) - Easy input, and can be the second safest of the taunts. While Dan is doing the taunt, the opponent can easily punish you. If you want to use it, use on the corner(Or for fun).

Kuuchuu Chouhatsu

  • PP (In the air) - The safest of the special taunts. Dan just shouts: "YAHOO!" Should go without saying but if you actually want empty jump mixups, don't use this taunt at all. The sound cue tells your opponent you're empty jumping and that you're wide open for punishment, even if you do it closer to the ground.

Zenten Chouhatsu

  • QCF+PP - Dan does rolls forward and then he uses his classic taunt stance. While he's rolling, high attacks will whiff. The opponent will (probably) punish you if you use it, so use with caution.

Kouten Chouhatsu

  • QCB+PP - The same as above, but Dan will roll backwards.

(Important note: In this game, Taunts increase the opponent's Super Meter, but not with those four taunts, and this is what makes those taunts (kind of) Special. Remember that doing a normal taunt - by pressing start -, even if it's Dan, will increase the opponent's meter).

Special Moves

The awesome power of the Dan's Special Moves... Here they are:

Gadouken

  • QCF+P - The classic, but weakened projectile. It's hard to use on combos due to the startup. Use it only to cancel another projectiles(Or even better, don't use it). If whiffs against the low crouching characters(You already know the rest).

Gadou Shoukou Ken

  • f, QCF+P - Dan crosses his arms before unleashing a giant, but short-ranged projectile. The damage is good, but for the startup and recovery... If you want, avoid this move. Even though this projectile is giant, it can only cancel normal projectiles, which makes it useless. You can abuse of it if you're versus the CPU.

Kouryuu Ken

  • DP+P - His classic anti-air is here guys! Well... It's not a bad move. Good for combos. Dan can flash sometimes, and when he flashes(You need some luck), he becomes invincible(The same of SFA3). This move is decent, but don't abuse of it.

Dankuu Kyaku

  • QCB+K(In the ground or in the air) - The LK version makes Dan perform one kick while the HK version makes he perform three kicks. The third kick sets your opponent on a juggle state if it hits the opponent while he/she's jumping. In the LK air version, Dan will do a (kind of) Double Jump, or even float, I think. For the HK version, it can be hard to hit, but if you want to float more, use it. LK version is a pseudo frame trap into itself.

Kyuukyoku Tenchi Gadou Zuki (aka KTGZ)

  • QCB(2x)+PP - Good move, really. Dan begins to charge some kind of energy and then he performs an unblockable punch. While he's charging, he's vulnerable only to low attacks(He has upper body Autoguard on this move), and he can autoguard even projectiles/Supers(not the ground ones). It's a great parody of Ryo's Tenchi Haoh Ken(His Exceed), but it will not dizzy the opponent nor do more damage on a counterhit, but it's still unblockable. The best time to use this is when your opponent will do a jump-in. This move whiffs on the low crouching characters(And that small guy standing).

Super Moves

Now you'll see the most powerful Saikyo techniques in this game.

Hisshou Burai Ken

  • QCB(2x)+K - Good Super. Dan performs a series of attacks in one place and ending with a Kouryuu Ken. LK version does 5 hits and HK version does 10 hits. The most damaging is the HK version(The LK version does good damage too), but the LK version has better startup. On the HK version, there's a attack on the middle of the combo that must be blocked low(I think that it's the fourth attack), and if it connects while the opponent is defending but isn't crouching, Dan will connect all of the other attacks. HK version is bad on combos, but the LK version is good and the damage is almost the same as the HK version.

Kouryuu Rekka

  • QCF(2x)+K - Dan performs a small Kouryuu Ken and then a large one for a total of 4(LK version) or 7(HK version) hits. The most damaging is the LK version. Dan goes a little forward on the HK version. The startup of this super is good on the two versions, so all of them are good on combos.

Chouhatsu Densetsu

  • QCF(2x)+PP - Taunt Super Move - The Legendary Taunt itself! Looks cool, and sure, it's not completely useless per se, but it's still a waste of meter in the end. If he performs all of the taunts (which takes a very long while), Dan and his opponent will both enter Max Mode, which in turn also means both players now have full meter. This should go without saying but if you actually care about winning, don't ever use this super. It's purely there for trolling and/or having fun with your friends. The opponent would need to deliberately let you perform all the taunts as they can punish Dan with a full combo at any moment. Plus, why would you want to give your opponent meter to work with anyways?

Exceed

Otoko Michi

  • HP, LK, b, LP, LP - His best and most damaging move! It's a shame that this can be used only once... This was first introduced on Marvel Super Heroes vs Street Fighter, and it's like Akuma/Gouki's Exceed(Shun Goku Satsu/Raging Demon), but on the contrary. This Exceed is unblockable and the damage is monstrous, but needs to be made near from the opponent. You think that this is risky? Don't worry, Dan is invincible while he is dashing, and you can confirm this Exceed(Just do the inputs beginning with a cl.HP). On Marvel Super Heroes vs Street Fighter(And MvC2), this move was still unblockable, but Dan's health will go to 1%, but don't need to worry about that here(Dan won't lose health by doing that).

The Basics

Dan's gameplan

First, you'll need to be patient if you want to try him. And remember this: Dan needs meter in battle to do damage. Do the taunt super strategy if you're only with 1 level of the bar, spam DPs when you're far away from the opponent, or something of your choose. Oh, and good luck with the flashing DPs too.

And although Dan is like a Shoto in gameplay, you can't rely only on Shoto tactics to use him effectively. You need to be careful when advancing with him just to make the opponent make some mistakes and you can punish him with what you have.

Some Combos (Without MAXIMUM Mode)

You can add if you know some more possible combos. (I know Dan Hibiki has a corner infinite combo, but I don't know how to put it here, because I just can't prove that it works.)

1- cl.HP, DP+P/QCF(2x)+K - 2(DP)/5(LK version of the Super)/8(HK version) hits

Good combo if you want to start. His cl.HP is one of his most damaging cancelable moves(And don't whifs on those low crouching characters, that's something that makes this move trustable), so this makes this combo good for punishing.

2- (Corner only) cl.HP, QCB+HK - 4 hits

That's the best way to combo the Strong Dankuu Kyaku. If you add a jumping attack, the combo will not connect all of the hits. If you use this combo outside of the corner on Choi, the QCB+HK whiffs.

3- (Corner only) [Jump Attack(I know, not many Jump Attacks here)] cl.HP, QCB+LK - 2 hits; 3 with the Jump Attack

A variation of the combo above. And it's the only combo with a [Jump Attack] too. That's because the other combos will fail if you add it, but that's not the case of this one. The damage is nice too, but sadly, it's possible only on the corner.

4- (Corner only) QCB+LK(Counter-hit), DP+P/QCF(2x)+K - 2 hits on each version

Interesting juggle combo. Good to use when you need. It's possible to combo after a Counter-hit QCB+LK in midscreen too. Just do a far s.LK and go ahead. Oh, I just found that this is another way to land Dan's corner infinite, which is nice!

5- cl.LP, cr.LK, QCB+LK/DP+LP - 3 hits

A nice combo for mixups. As you know, the cl.LP whiffs on the low crouching characters(You know what will be there), so if you need, do the cr.LK only. If you want an easier combo, do cl.LP, cl.LK, followup with what you want.

6- cl.HP, Exceed - 2 hits(The game won't recognize the Exceed confirm as a combo, but the hits will connect)

This can be one of his most damaging combos. This "Raging Demon" is better than Akuma/Gouki's, because it's easier to connect(I don't know if Akuma/Gouki can combo with his Raging Demon). The recovery of Dan's Exceed is good too, which is a nice thing. If the opponent blocks the cl.HP, the Exceed will whiff, even when he/she's on the grab range.

7- (When the opponent is in a jumping state and on the corner) QCB+HK, DP+P/QCF(2x)+K - 3 hits(I think you can get more with the Super, but I got 3 hits)

A tricky and hard combo. You don't need to learn it, but if you want, I'll say how you can do it. When the opponent jumps, you need to time well, because the second hit of the HK Dankuu Kyaku cannot hit the opponent to make this work. Remember:You just need to avoid the second hit, but the other 2 kicks need to hit the opponent.

--Redarts (talk) 17:18, 26 December 2015 (MSK) - I don't know why, but I made a great part of this.

Advanced Strategy

Some players say that Dan has a bad gameplay, even those who play with him. Dan has some effective moves, like his LK Dankuu Kyaku, and his Kyuukyoku Tenchi Gadou Zuki(KTGZ for short).

Safe KTGZ

Well... The KTGZ is EXTREMELY unsafe when it hits. Now don't need to worry! You just need to be in MAXIMUM Mode and cancel while Dan is punching the opponent(You have time to cancel it, so don't worry). It's better to cancel in his projectile, because it's easier to do. It's a nice strategy to use in the battle.

Some combos (With MAXIMUM Mode)
Dan hasn't many MAXIMUM Mode options, but I found how to do his infinite on 27/07/2016("IT WORKED!!! IT REALLY WORKED!!!", I was like this at the time). I'll mark this forever here, and inside of my mind.

1- (Combo number 4/7 goes here, but with a DP after the QCB+K), (MAX cancel the DP+P into) QCB+LK(It needs to whiff), DP+P, (MAX cancel it into) QCB+LK(Needs to whiff again) ... (When you want) ... (After any QCB+LK whiff) QCF(2x)+K - 8(For the combo number 4)/9 hits(For the combo 7, but that's what I got, I think you can do better than that if you practice)

Yeah, Dan's infinite is here, writed for you(The damage is incredible too). It is practical, but it's very hard to land, really. Your opponent won't be neutral jumping/jumping backwards on the corner. "Can it do an insta-KO?" No, but this combo, and the Exceed combo are the best things Dan Hibiki can do here.

How Dan can deal with:

His projectiles
Dan has bad projectiles in this game, sadly. One whiffs on low crouching characters and the other has bad startup. But that doesn't mean that you don't have something to do. If the opponent choose a character with a low/ground projectile(Like Sagat, Iori and Terry, for exemple), you'll be on a kind of disadvantage, because your projectiles will(probably) fail against their projectiles. So, just think: "What can I do?". Well, it's a low/ground projectile, and if we are dealing with a low/ground projectile, then the answer is simple. A Brazilian poet wrote this in a verse of one of his poems: "What is not on the ground, is in heaven, and what is at the bottom, it is only something that will pass, and will always come back some day.". You're probably asking yourself: "So, to avoid those projectiles, Dan needs to go to heaven? You're crazy." No, don't think that way, please(Dan don't need to visit his father now). I'll translate the verse now(If you haven't understood). "What isn't on the ground, needs to be in the air, and what confronted you, you will have to confront it again some time." In short, you just need to jump(All of this nonsense for a jump, nice), preferably, a neutral jump. If your opponent does a dash or a jump in your direction, press the LK button. Its range is good, it can help some times.

The moves that whiff
Your normals that whiff are not a problem, but the Special Moves... They are really a problem... If you're against a player that abuses his crouching state(Or Choi/Zero), don't use the special moves that whiff(It will be a bad thing for you), try to abuse of your jumping moves(Watch out for those anti-airs), and don't abuse too much of your low moves. If don't want to do this, just try to make your opponent jump(By being on a crouching state), just to make him fall on a anti-air, or try to use some grabs on him. If nothing works, you can try to poke with f.LK and cr.LK.

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